Musing 1: Arwen Discussion

[ella_rose88]

So today while I was out shopping I spotted two books about the King Arthur legends. Of course I had a look and once again I flipped through and realised that Guinevere was portrayed as having an affair with Lancelot. This, of course, got me thinking about Merlin and after the little spoiler we had about "a certain" person returning in series 3 and future series, it makes me wonder how Lancelot will return and what will happen when he does. Will he once again cause Arthur/ Gwen more heartache then leave once again? As always I have decided to do a little questionnaire because let's face it I love being able to hear other people's opinions.

1. In what way do you think Lancelot will return in series 3 and how do you think Gwen and Arthur will react?
2. How do you think Lancelot's return in series 3 will effect Arwen?
3. Do you think it possible that things will be in some way ressolved between Lancelot, Gwen & Arthur in series 3, considering that they have many other bigger obstacles to face (such as Uther) before they can get married?
4. Considering the way Guinevere's character has been portrayed in this series, do you think that the writers will hint at the possiblity of her having an affair with Lancelot in the future?
5. How do you want Gwen's character to further develop in series 3?
6. How do you want Arthur's character to further develop in series 3
7. How do you want Arwen to develop in series 3? What obstacles do you think they will face & do you think they will overcome them?
8. What things to do you want to see in series 3 in regards to Arwen? 

Comments

um, sorry this is in 2 parts cause I don't know when to shut up

[cammie87.livejournal.com]

1)I have no idea how he will return but I think it will be in an intentional way – he will come back to Camelot for a reason. I think Gwen will be annoyed at first and want an explanation for his behaviour the last time she saw him, if he tells her the truth I’m not sure if she would be touched by his loyalty to Arthur or hurt that he made the decision without consulting her. Arthur I’m not so sure, he could either go out of his way to show Lancelot that he and Gwen are in love. Or he could step back and just watch the way Gwen behaves. I hope that he doesn’t become too insecure over the whole thing again.

2)I think it has the potential to affect them in a major way. Either Gwen will make it clear she wants Arthur and it will strengthen their bond, or she could be torn – throwing them into chaos again. This is all down to how Gwen will react. This is the part that makes me so nervous, a lot counts on Lancelots return next series. In his last visit Gwen and Arthur were not established, Gwen was not in love with Arthur, she did not know Arthur loved her. If the writers make her fall for Lancelot when he comes back and Arthur and Gwen are now established as ‘in love’, this will mess up her character, go against all her development and beliefs. And ruin the storyline for me. Unless something very bad happens between her and Arthur before Lancelot’s arrival, this will be a no avoiding it direct ‘betrayal.’ If the writers do this than I think they hate women, Morgana evil and disloyal, Gwen unfaithful and a liar and Merlin and Arthur in the middle of it all the noble Heroes. But I’m getting way ahead of myself and I really don’t believe the writers would do that to us or her character.

3)In one episode? Doubtful. It could get resolved in the sense that Gwen will make a clear choice between the two men. But the question is will they make her stick to it. will Arthur suspect – and marry Gwen knowing she has feelings for Lancelot or will he be totally oblivious. I think for Gwen to become his wife and Lancelot his Knight. Arthur is going to have to suspect nothing and be totally secure in his relationship with Gwen. Lancelot and Gwen are not the type of people to deceive someone they care about in such a major way. So I think that before the two marry whatever she had with Lancelot will be gone or have developed into a friendship only. I don’t know if this will be resolved next series but I think a resolution to this is definitely going to come. Gwen would never marry Arthur if she was in love with someone else.

4)They do like to give us hints. and there is every chance they might with this. But haven’t they given us a hint already – its not going to be the way people expect. So after listening to what the producers have said I struggle with the idea of an affair. I still think it will end up being a choice for her – will she choose to be with Lancelot? she could have the ‘perfect man’ in him, he is ideal for her and he does not need to be guided in the same way as Arthur does, they share the same opinions, they come from similar backgrounds and they could be happy together, and I think Gwen knows that.
whereas Arthur and Gwen clearly have a knack for irritating each other, they argue and are far from perfect for each other, they come from different worlds and it will always be a struggle for them, even if Arthur made her Queen would the struggle ever end? would she be accepted by the court or the people or the nobility from foreign lands?. I think Bradley James is right – on paper Lancelot is soo much better for Gwen. But she will end up with Arthur. So I think the writers have made it very obvious. The love story – the interesting story is between Gwen and Arthur. An affair with Lancelot would make no sense in the way that they have written the characters established the storylines and made Lancelot into a ‘bit’ part as oppose to a main character (which they could have easily done)

[cammie87.livejournal.com]

5)I would like her to gain more confidence, and realize her worth. I would like to see her as more of a champion to the people of Camelot and be more open and honest about her true feelings.

6)I would like him to become a strong voice of reason against Uther. To be kinder to Merlin and show Gwen that he is willing to fight for their relationship

7)They are sure of each others feelings now so I think the obstacle they will face is Uther. Uther is going to cause trouble even if it is unintentional. They have done the jealousy and the insecurity and doubt now they are going to be tested in faith and patience.

8)I want Gwen to tell Arthur she loves him. I would like them to discuss their future properly, um more kisses and more hugs more meetings and I think they need to be shown to have some fun together. Their scenes are great and intense but I would like to see some normal couple behaviour light and comfortable. I would also like a proper full on shouting match between them - complete with throwing of shoes and flower vases.lol.

[farmgirl62.livejournal.com]

"complete with throwing of shoes and flower vases.lol."

PLEASE! Oy! The fun. And Merlin trying to run around and help patch things up while each rant at him.